This must be an old video. I live in Asia and help some Chinese students with their English. This in NOT their view of the church in China. They have a lot more freedom of worship than this video portrays. Some provinces are stricter than others, but they still have freedom to worship in church. I’m glad the video is calling attention to persecuted believers, but there are other countries that are far harsher on Christians than China.
I am Christian Missionary from Argentina, and God sent me to this Country (USA) after 11 years I feel a big frustration about my vision and the Work of God…There is not rivaval in this Country, The Christian Church is corrupted by capitalism…Now I am preapering my next Mission to China where they will get the fire. Thank You Jesus!!!
@fuckyou121212121212 What is a race traitor? Have you been smoking crack? Jesus was probably a bronze skinned man, looking similar to those living now in the Middle east. Why don’t you learn something about what you speak of before you start spewing?
@fuckyou121212121212 I FEEL SORRY FOR YOU. YOU DO NOT HAVE A CLUE ABOUT WHAT YOU ARE SAYING. JESUS CHRIST IS REAL. EVERYBODY WILL BELIEVE; HOWEVER, IT DOES NOT MATTER UNLESS YOU BELIEVE WHILE YOU ARE STILL ALIVE ON THIS EARTH.
@fuckyou121212121212 May be you are the one brainwashed into believing there is no God that is why you are angry with them. There is really nothing to find own salvation in the next life. But if you want to stay in this world then continue doing so, at your own peril.
@AccipeHocc “if you practice freedom of speech and thought, what you said earlier should not be posted.”
So freedom of speech and thought = censorship to you. Got ya.
“Secondly, these people experienced for themselves miracle healings and moments of intimacy with God, and no one is in a position to judge them.”
As do the believers of every religion experience miracle healings and moments of intimacy with their Gods. Everyone is in a position to judge everything.
@TheHigherVoltage Firstly, if you practice freedom of speech and thought, what you said earlier should not be posted. Secondly, these people experienced for themselves miracle healings and moments of intimacy with God, and no one is in a position to judge them.
If America would want non Socialistic Society like this people want America would be different So Praise God that he is trying to wake up us up and become that hungary for him that we stop everything we are doing to just turn to him
@cbtmedik “well, we finaly agree on something, we’re all F’ed up!”
I’d wager we’d agree on just about everything that we both have accurate information on, and approach with an unbiased position of skeptical uncertainty.
@cbtmedik Underground churches….for fuck sakes. They’re called “HOUSE CHURCHES” and they are authorized by China – as long as they don’t break any of their other laws.
It’d be like me starting a Christian church in America, going back to ‘it’s righteous to beat your wife into submission and own slaves’ – until I get arrested for spousal abuse and slavery, and scream “I’m being persecuted for being a Christian!”
Dishonestly portray the facts, and I’d have other Christians on my side too.
@cbtmedik Sprinkling sugar over bullshit doesn’t change the fact it’s bullshit. And the simple fact you say ‘it’s not ALL bullshit’, is an admittance you know there’s bullshit under the surface.
Why can’t you just be honest with yourself and only believe what you can prove is true?
@TheHigherVoltage well, we finaly agree on something, we’re all F’ed up! That’s the issue and that’s why these underground churches are there. China say’s “we support these religions” but only government-authorized religion. See the problem? So, people choose to worship behind close doors and got arrested for it. A lot is in this committee’s reports taken straight from China’s records. To include torcher and death. However, to be fair, it’s come a long ways but still a problem.
@cbtmedik I’m familiar with the committee. Their goal is to paint China as evil. They do a good job of it. I’m not saying China isn’t fucked up – but it’s as fucked up as America. I’d argue America is worse in many ways.
In China, if a business exec lies, cheats, steals, and destroys the financial stability of tens of thousands, they are executed. In America, if a business exec does the same thing, they get a bail out, a bonus, and a better office space.
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December 15th, 2011 at 4:09 am
This must be an old video. I live in Asia and help some Chinese students with their English. This in NOT their view of the church in China. They have a lot more freedom of worship than this video portrays. Some provinces are stricter than others, but they still have freedom to worship in church. I’m glad the video is calling attention to persecuted believers, but there are other countries that are far harsher on Christians than China.
December 15th, 2011 at 4:53 am
I am Christian Missionary from Argentina, and God sent me to this Country (USA) after 11 years I feel a big frustration about my vision and the Work of God…There is not rivaval in this Country, The Christian Church is corrupted by capitalism…Now I am preapering my next Mission to China where they will get the fire. Thank You Jesus!!!
December 15th, 2011 at 5:51 am
@fuckyou121212121212 What is a race traitor? Have you been smoking crack? Jesus was probably a bronze skinned man, looking similar to those living now in the Middle east. Why don’t you learn something about what you speak of before you start spewing?
December 15th, 2011 at 6:07 am
@fuckyou121212121212 I FEEL SORRY FOR YOU. YOU DO NOT HAVE A CLUE ABOUT WHAT YOU ARE SAYING. JESUS CHRIST IS REAL. EVERYBODY WILL BELIEVE; HOWEVER, IT DOES NOT MATTER UNLESS YOU BELIEVE WHILE YOU ARE STILL ALIVE ON THIS EARTH.
December 15th, 2011 at 6:37 am
Amazing, God bless them
December 15th, 2011 at 6:45 am
@fuckyou121212121212 May be you are the one brainwashed into believing there is no God that is why you are angry with them. There is really nothing to find own salvation in the next life. But if you want to stay in this world then continue doing so, at your own peril.
December 15th, 2011 at 7:03 am
@geraldmartinez360 Because they have been brainwashed by western propaganda (Christianity). They worship white jesus, lmfao
December 15th, 2011 at 7:28 am
@fuckyou121212121212 How is it they became traitors to you? Envy, why do’nt you just join them and worship GOD.
December 15th, 2011 at 8:12 am
Fuck these race traitors.
December 15th, 2011 at 9:04 am
There’s going to be a lot of Chinese people in Heaven.
December 15th, 2011 at 9:16 am
is this apostasy?
December 15th, 2011 at 9:41 am
Clearly the video is from the 80′s…
December 15th, 2011 at 10:18 am
@AccipeHocc “if you practice freedom of speech and thought, what you said earlier should not be posted.”
So freedom of speech and thought = censorship to you. Got ya.
“Secondly, these people experienced for themselves miracle healings and moments of intimacy with God, and no one is in a position to judge them.”
As do the believers of every religion experience miracle healings and moments of intimacy with their Gods. Everyone is in a position to judge everything.
December 15th, 2011 at 10:29 am
@TheHigherVoltage Firstly, if you practice freedom of speech and thought, what you said earlier should not be posted. Secondly, these people experienced for themselves miracle healings and moments of intimacy with God, and no one is in a position to judge them.
December 15th, 2011 at 11:27 am
@robertthegeek How has turning to imaginary friends EVER made things better?
December 15th, 2011 at 12:22 pm
@TheHigherVoltage yea thats deep.
December 15th, 2011 at 12:56 pm
If America would want non Socialistic Society like this people want America would be different So Praise God that he is trying to wake up us up and become that hungary for him that we stop everything we are doing to just turn to him
December 15th, 2011 at 1:43 pm
@cbtmedik “well, we finaly agree on something, we’re all F’ed up!”
I’d wager we’d agree on just about everything that we both have accurate information on, and approach with an unbiased position of skeptical uncertainty.
December 15th, 2011 at 2:31 pm
@cbtmedik Underground churches….for fuck sakes. They’re called “HOUSE CHURCHES” and they are authorized by China – as long as they don’t break any of their other laws.
It’d be like me starting a Christian church in America, going back to ‘it’s righteous to beat your wife into submission and own slaves’ – until I get arrested for spousal abuse and slavery, and scream “I’m being persecuted for being a Christian!”
Dishonestly portray the facts, and I’d have other Christians on my side too.
December 15th, 2011 at 2:45 pm
@cbtmedik Sprinkling sugar over bullshit doesn’t change the fact it’s bullshit. And the simple fact you say ‘it’s not ALL bullshit’, is an admittance you know there’s bullshit under the surface.
Why can’t you just be honest with yourself and only believe what you can prove is true?
December 15th, 2011 at 3:41 pm
@TheHigherVoltage but to also be fair…it’s not ALL bullshit.
December 15th, 2011 at 3:45 pm
@TheHigherVoltage well, we finaly agree on something, we’re all F’ed up! That’s the issue and that’s why these underground churches are there. China say’s “we support these religions” but only government-authorized religion. See the problem? So, people choose to worship behind close doors and got arrested for it. A lot is in this committee’s reports taken straight from China’s records. To include torcher and death. However, to be fair, it’s come a long ways but still a problem.
December 15th, 2011 at 4:43 pm
@cbtmedik I’m familiar with the committee. Their goal is to paint China as evil. They do a good job of it. I’m not saying China isn’t fucked up – but it’s as fucked up as America. I’d argue America is worse in many ways.
In China, if a business exec lies, cheats, steals, and destroys the financial stability of tens of thousands, they are executed. In America, if a business exec does the same thing, they get a bail out, a bonus, and a better office space.